The propaganda whores are working overtime with this.

No new facts or evidence of course, but as we know, facts and evidence have never been a requirement for despicables to bloviate and spew.

 

Absolute nonsense……..the whistleblower followed the correct channels and his report has been deemed credible and substantive!

The facts are already there in the open...…..what is lacking is shootersa's thesis on the matter!!

Thinskin

 

No. New. Facts. Or. Evidence.

Has zip to do with whether the whistleblower followed procedure.

The propagandists are spewing overtime propaganda with no new facts or evidence to justify their shit spew.

 

Something you do on a regular basis with Trump...

 

FACTS?....Was pencil-neck Schiff repeating the facts when he said:



Furthermore, when were the requirements changed by DNI that meet the criteria as a ''whistle-blower''?

Seems to the rational follower of U.S. politics, that the tourist/armchair political hacks lack credibility with their assertions about U.S. politics, because they fail in the recognition of the form of Government the U.S. possess.

 

Senate Democrats in GOP states worry impeachment inquiry could backfire in 2020

Senate Democrats in Republican-leaning states are worried the impeachment inquiry could ruin any chances of the Democrat Party winning back the majority in the upper chamber in 2020.

Montana Senator John Tester said it’s vital that House Democrats focus on President Trump’s July phone call with his Ukrainian counterpart because he claims the president is the master of pivoting and deflecting.

“My belief is that now that the speaker has decided to impeach, they need to make sure it is very, very focused,” he stated. “They need to get to the bottom of the information as promptly as they can and they need to move.”

West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin echoed the same remarks as Tester, adding, Democrats should stay away from old issues and focus on investigating the Ukraine phone call because it deals with a foreign entity.

 

WATCH: Swing state voters don’t support impeachment

As the Democrats continue to push for calls of impeachment of President Trump, polls are suggesting voters in crucial swing states do not support them.

 

Of course not do not. They see those POS politicians and all the others suffering from Trump derangement Syndrome as the hippocrates they are.

For three plus years they had used not only their positions but any other means they can come up with to get dirt on their political opponent namely Trump or anyone connected to him. Nothing has been out of bounds for them.

Information from foreign governments if it gets Trump they were ok with using it.


Anonymous sources no one knew who were or if the information was even true as long if it gets Trump they were ok with it.


A sleazebag lawyer that rips off his clients if it gets Trump they were ok with it.

Accusations where the accuser did even know when where the act happened if it gets Trump they were ok with it.


Using testimony or evidence that wouldn't be allowed in the court of law as long as it gets Trump they are ok with it.

Voters are not stupid and will see the truth about this lot. Then they will repay them with the most appropriate punishment they can give. Vote a bunch of them out of office and re-electing Trump. Personally I'm going to be laughing my ass off alongside all of them as the cry fest starts when the results come in just as I did three years ago.

 

What alleged crimes did Hunter Biden commit?

 

Let's see what was said. I haven't seen the transcript of the phone call. Has anyone here read it??
No, you haven't? So nobody knows, is that right? But we're going to the mat here anyway without even a clue of what happened...

Sounds about right.
Carry on.

 

Not spew. Spit. Coffee all over my keyboard you made me laugh so hard about this.

New fact. After lying through his teeth to the nation about not knowing what's in the read out of the call Pompeo was finally forced to admit he actually listened in on the call.

New fact: Support for impeachment has taken a dramatic swing gaining 10 points in one week with most polls now showing a majority in favor of impeachment.

New fact: The IC the Inspector General totally exposed the lie Trump and the Republicans were trying to tell that the whistleblower complaint was only based on hearsay and the rules for allowing a complaint based on hearsay where changed just before the complaint was submitted.

And here's a couple new facts. Even though Trump and Pompeo said special envoy for Ukraine Kurt Volker resigned he was actually forced to resign by Pompeo.

And the Department of State Inspector General asked for an "urgent meeting" with 8 separate congressional committees today to hand over recently uncovered documents dealing with Ukraine even though congress is in recess.

Pompeo has also defied congressional subpoenas and three different committees have responded by informing him they can and probably charge him with obstruction of congress. Especially since the employees they want to depose actually want to testify to congress.olker

And two other Department of State employees will also testify within the coming days.

Kurt Volker and Marie Yovanovitch, Figures in Trump-Ukraine Whistleblower Complaint, to Appear Before
Congress

https://www.thedailybeast.com/house...-made-ghost-bookings-at-trump-hotels?ref=home

I posted the entire read out on page 7. And actually highlighted some of the most important parts so you can easily read it. Why don't you do that and see what you think.

 

Got a question. What are people going to think when a group of politicians who oppose the president and are in the majority decide to impeach the president just because they do not like him?
We are at that point right now.

Will one party have to be in the majority through out the government to keep a president from being impeached?

 

People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. When Trump falsely accuses Biden of helping his son profit in Ukraine all that really does is call attention to all the money making deals Ivanka and Don Jr have profited from with other foreign countries. Not to mention all the money Trump himself makes from foreign governments bribing him by pouring money into his businesses.

And now this. And its just the tip of the ice berg. Ukrainians have also bailed Trump out in the past.

Rudy Giuliani’s business dealings in Ukraine now under investigation by Congress

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/ru...-ukraine-now-under-investigation-by-congress/



Nancy HR3 persctiptin drugs. N-US mexico trade agreement strengthing families,. . Hope Trump works with us. Infrastructute. Legislating investigating litigating. Khashoggi. Chinese Trump praising communism. While prosters in Hong Kong. Glad to see press. Wish you whould show up to some of our meetings so the American people would know what we are doing.

Trying to save our democracy thank god for constitution. We have no choice but to go foreward.

Schiff--One year anniversary of Khashoggi murder. Trying to get to bottom of it.


Hearing DNI subponea to state pompeo effort to interfer considered as evidence of obstruction. Mondy subpoena Rudy Cummings subpoena will issue White House for documents Volker IG will testify deposition ambassador more depositions scheduled. Feel sense of urgancy.

(OMG JUST FUNNY AS FUCK--PELOSI STARTS WITH DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA BEFORE QUESTIONS ON IMPEACHMENT. AND SHE IS MAKING THEM FUCKING DO IT. SHE IS NOT CONTROLLING THE PRESS CONFERENCE SHE IS DOMINATING IT)

Pelosi does any have questions on our legislation. us MEXICO will Trump work with you if impeaching him also says he wants to lower price of perscription drugs, HR3 USMCA must have enforciabiolity what about gun legislation Most recent gun violence? Trump called We are not going away until we get gun laws to protect our children. I pray for Trump and his family

Pelosi --no need for floor vote now on impeachment inquiry--but this is a very sad time for our country

Schiff-- any attempts to defy subponeas considered obstruction of justice

May or may not seek court rulings. But not willing to allow Trump to drag this out.

Pelosi Trump wants to interview whistle blower

Schiff law says whistleblower must be protected

Trump calling this treason is attempt to intimidate witnesses and incite violence

Attacking whistleblower but read out of call proves what's in the complaint

Pelosi--I was in gang of 4 and gang of 8 for 25 years. Created whistleblower laws and office of DNI we are honoring the constitution Trump is dishonering it. Esential to have whistleblowers and protect them. Trump does not undTuesdaerstand what he is doing attacking whistleblower

Schiff--What founders were concerned the most about when they wrote the constitution was interference from foreign countries the would have shit if they saw the read out of that call-- If this doesn't rise to level founders were most concerned aboutt what does--made the call and then tried to hide it--those facts are not contested--what is the role of Pompeo Barr and Giuliani--no floor Trump cannot sink to that Republicans will not support

Pelosi-- On call undermined our national security -- why was it hidden in top secret server-- interest in protecting our national security -- undermining laws passed by congress- and undermingy our elections-- founders put guardrails in constitution to protect democracy -- but never thought they will have to deal with a president that says article II says he can do whatever he wants. --Telling members be calm and clear--this hit on constitution day Sept 17 What do we have Ben Franklan a monarchy or a republic?--Franklin a republic if we can keep it--so we have to act--

thank you all very much

 

The transcript is available to read and yet opinions from the right on whether this is a criminal abuse of office are just not there.

What more facts do you need?

Thinskin

 

Ah, but impeachment is not a court trial nor like other legal proceedings. If there was evidence on any president that they committed a crime, but the evidence was obtained without a warrant, I'd still want him removed from office. There's a reason that the founders created the impeachment process and made it different from other legal proceedings.

 

@shootersa

Oh my God shootersa you are just so fucking hilarious when you try to play this dumb. You literally make me laugh out loud. The Democrats were investigating Trump for obstruction of justice. They fully intended to impeach him for what is in the Mueller report if they could nail down the witnesses. That is why they were holding all those hearings. And those investigations are still on going in at least six committees.

But then Trump got caught red handed trying to extort Ukraine into framing Biden and threatening our national security and all bets were off because they have to deal with that first. Because its not only in writing Trump has confessed to trying to get another foreign country to interfere in our elections multiple times on national TV. They have no choice but to open an impeachment inquiry into that. And if you listened to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep Adam Schiff today they don't intend to waste a lot of time on it. They already have the evidence they need.

However the plot does continue to thicken. And when you read this remember since there were also Pence staffers listening in on the call what Pence is asking us to believe is his staffers sat in on the call but never told Pence about it. Which isn't really believable at all.

Pence staffers claim he had no knowledge of Trump’s Ukraine plot — but he kept involving Pence in it anyway: report

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/pe...-he-kept-involving-pence-in-it-anyway-report/

 

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) knew about the “whistleblower” complaint days before it was officially filed, it was reported on Wednesday.

Schiff – who performed a dramatized version of President Trump’s July 25 phone call with Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky during last week’s hearing – was aware of the broad contents of the “whistleblower” complaint days before the partisan CIA official formally filed the complaint, the New York Times reported.
Adam Schiff needs to be in jail in Gitmo

 

Poll: Majority of Americans approve of Trump impeachment inquiry

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...mericans-approve-of-trump-impeachment-inquiry

 

Yeah, good luck with all the spinning and obfuscation. Yep, The whistleblower was not just encouraged to get a lawyer', but he was hooked up with Deep Stater Michael Atkinson:

“Michael Atkinson was the lawyer for the same DOJ-NSD players who: (1) lied to the FISA court (Judge Rosemary Collyer) about the 80% non compliant NSA database abuse using FBI contractors; (2) filed the FISA application against Carter Page; and (3) used FARA violations as tools for political surveillance and political targeting,”

Pretty fucking cozy.